berrysphase replied to your post: 🔥 if you’re still accepting them, Aragorn?
Yeah, this is one of the (many many many) reasons I don’t get along with the movies.
Lol oops I was trying to be less obvious! 😀 I was trying…ish…to be more focused on the fandom’s obsession with making Aragorn like, super-averse to becoming king and stuff but…oh well. To be fair, I’ve seen a lot of fans go “okay I mostly prefer the books but movie!Aragorn is a far more believable and relatable protagonist–” gdhdjdrrcbjfdd HE’S NOT A okay okay I’ve beaten this dead horse too many times. But. Really. No matter how awesome Viggo Mortensen’s face is.
simaethae replied to your post: 🔥 thingol 🔥
also like, we never see the kind of… sudden
horrifying reveal you expect from mind control in the silm, the closest
it gets is maeglin and that’s presented as tied up with maeglin’s
preexisting motives. so thingol’s “he enchanted her!” comes off as kind
of, out of nowhere and irrational, esp since if anyone’s doing any
enchanting around here it’s obviously Luthien.
but like, thralls escaping from morgoth and turning
out to still be under his control was totally a thing, so… beren
“escaped” from Sauron, the lone heroic survivor, sure. sure. sounds 100%
plausible. (albeit the text doesn’t really give us this, just
Thingol’s weird anxiety about Men, so i’m kind of unsure if i really
want to overlay reality-based concern onto Thingol’s weird paranoid
issues when the latter may be more interesting really)
Haha yeah I was thinking about how Tolkien’s borrowed character archetypes and lifted-straight-from-a-legend type stuff often had a….almost fanfic-y feel? I mean in the sense of, “okay I love this standard archetypal story but wait wait let me IMPROVE it by doing a massive multi-story crossover and also explaining the character’s motives with these long made-up backstories to make the legend-characters’ actions more organic and logical! And I feel like, applying that to the standard disapproving-dad trope fits in with Thingol very well! But yeah I do kind of think a more, whatever, unique psychological explanation for his paranoia is probably more interesting than a setting-based/environmental one, but I guess I can see it either way.