bamboocounting replied to your post:                   A meme ask almost prompted me to give this long…                

   I…CARE…SO MUCH ABOUT NUMENOR NOW    

This was of course my WHOLE AGENDA 😀

bamboocounting replied to your post:                  A meme ask almost prompted me to give this long…                

   by which I mean: what are the quirky civic/municipal ‘rivalries’
that elrond could have gotten up to in memory of elros (I don’t know the
timeline of rivendell’s founding vs numenorean history but. just the
thought of IN-JOKES CENTURIES OUT OF DATE    

djhgfjhs YES Rivendell wasn’t founded until 1200+ years after Elros died and who the hell knows how long it took them to put together any semblance of a library since it was the middle of a war, so like a) YES SILLY ONE-SIDED IN-JOKES but also b)….hahaha Tolkien never really elaborates on how much the people of Arnor visited Rivendell in those early days right after they came to ME either! Maybe it was a lot! Help…

thelioninmybed replied to your post: A meme ask almost prompted me to give this long tangential answer, but…
       
       
              

                   fuuuuck this is so lovely! So logical! oh god I
suddenly have all these warm, fuzzy numenorian feelings                

Is it….a weird feeling….

I mean, I kind of…fanwanked myself into caring about Numenor because I felt like its early history and eventual destruction should be something that was like, seriously palpably real in its tragedy and not just academic, and the sheer number of gaping holes in information about it is just, such a fun thing, as a second-best option to having fully-fleshed out actual canon.

isilloth replied to your post: A meme ask almost prompted me to give this long tangential answer, but…”
   

    Is it specifically written somewhere that elves
remember everything what they hear exactly the same? And everything from
their lifes? I find it very difficult where you are immortal. Did they
have time like, stop for hours to find in memory something from they
childhood? I think is kind if popular assumption here and I wonder it is
canon or headcanon? I know it wasn’t main point of this meta, sorry.  
           

Tolkien makes a number of scattered mentions of elvish memory being generally unfading as a result of time, but doesn’t actually say it’s 100% perfect or that they never forget anything. The best kind of, like, analysis of how the persistence of elvish memory is in fact a really meaningful and woldbuilding-significant species trait that separates humans’ and elves’ view of the world and general psychology (and kind of explains how elves’ memory of their own immortality integrates into this, and just like…generally makes both characterization and thematic sense of things) is in the Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth – it’s both discussed generally and invoked specifically regarding Aegnor and Andreth.

A more dry kind of factual statement about unfading elvish memory is from the Shibboleth of Feanor:

All peace and all strongholds were
at last destroyed by Morgoth; but if any wonder how any lore and
treasure was preserved from ruin, it may be answered: of the treasure
little was preserved, and the loss of things of beauty great and small
is incalculable; but the lore of the Eldar did not depend on perishable records, being stored in the vast houses of their minds.
When the Eldar made records in written form, even those that to us
would seem voluminous, they did only summarise, as it were, for the use
of others whose lore was maybe in other fields of knowledge, matters
which were kept for ever undimmed in intricate detail in their minds.