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   move the time period up a bit and wedge rumors of the necromancer in there   

   or rather: notes of their very loud recitation of the lay makes its
way into his ears, SOMEHOW, and then he has to provide those lines
himself after arwen starts using the squeakiest silly voice for Thu’s
lines    

msuidfisuffd….The Real Reason the war started, A & A were messing around and sauron threw a tantrum. ‘see this is why i told you kids to wait’ says elrond, crossly

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   HGHGHGHGHG. I doubt they would drag anyone in but if they did…. who……..    

well for Finrod, given the Most Common Silm Fanart Confusion Problem, I am unfortunately forced to conclude “Glorfindel.” Hey, maybe Aragorn and Arwen both had massive crushes on Glorfindel when the were teenagers. He probably like, taught each of them stuff. Like wrestling. 👀👀👀👀

a) searching ‘dream’ on your blog is the best decision and b) have you had other dreams about media consumed?

wouefgsidyfgyfs how did…nvm

anyway uh YES I HAVE LOTS OF DREAMS ABOUT MEDIA CONSUMED SORT OF….but their presence is usually very like….patched into a non-media-based dream in a random collage…I don’t often have dreams where i interact with [fictional character] or am in [fictional setting] etc…..recently though, when it was like -5 Fahrenheit every day and there was that Supermoon (New Year’s day?) I went out to see said moon and it was incredible and when I went back to sleep I dreamed someone reciting this.

nelyafinwe replied to your post:                there gloom the dark broad sea, NOT (primarily)…                

   wow thanks satan (jk i absolutely LOVED this)    

thank u someone should definitely write it

bamboocounting replied to your post:                   there gloom the dark broad sea, NOT (primarily)…                

   i love this SO very much and need to finish my coh read    

yay!! also thank u, but unfortunately there is not that much extra post-thangorodrim hurin in COH…there is more of him in the beginning though

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   nah it also happened in the netherlands lmao i have no idea but i
imagine some woman woth big boobs and ass getting tanned on a beach is
the brazilian stereotype abroad    

kcjvhkjdfhfgk yeah prob

imindhowwelayinjune replied to your post:                   WHAT is jigglegif???   

   For breaking the vow of silence you will be smothered in your bed by
unlikely proportioned pectorals and a 1:1 hop waist ratio sorry I don’t
make the rules   

   …. Okay so that’s supposed to be hip not hop but it fits the bouncing theme so it stays  

what fuckin……silence…..

anyway thanks now i’m imagining him hopping

there gloom the dark broad sea, NOT (primarily) for numenoreans?

Hurin. At the end. He looks back through the years clearly and sees what lies before him clearly, freed of the protective muffling haze of vengeance and grievance, and now there is despair. The self-destruction of his children and wife who he loved, the ruin he left in his wake in Brethil, the uselessness of his stunt with the Nauglamir, his loss of faith and belief in the words he spoke in defiance to Morgoth all those years ago on the Hill of the Slain, of hope beyond the walls of the world. Everywhere he has gone and everything he has done he has marred, and found no peace or light or trusted solid ground. And he has nowhere left to run, but to the sea, which is dark as reality and truth, and is vast, and will accept everything into its abyss, including himself.

bamboocounting replied to your post:                  I really like the way your drawings look? I mean,…                

   THEY ARE SO CUTE do you have any ideas to share about first, second, or third age writing implements    

nooooo i do not, i know nothing abt the history of writing implements. i assume it went about mostly kinda like RL history, but more quickly/asymmetrically, among elves and humans.

otoh among dwarves with their ithildin looney tunes style drawings-of-doors-that-turn-into-doors and stuff like that, i think it was more like an element of a process of refining enchantment – first not-very-fine-tuned enchantments in less-fine-tuned carvings, objects and pictures etc, then developing into runes etc

in my goal to get you to do all of Ónen i-Estel Edain, the section from ‘Better than a wound by a sword.’ to the sentence with “a people for whom the Narn i Hîn Húrin is not a tragedy of their past”?

THAT IS LIKE….700 WORDS….FUCK YOU…..and also this is like the most bald and exposition-y section, but whatever fine, I promised. >_o ❤ Link!

“I got them on the rigging. Better than a wound by a sword. Which reminds me, I must return you yours.”

Unless they had to separate, Elrond usually carried both swords, crossed over his back, knowing how Elros hated them. But the sword Elros had torn away on the battlefield was Narsil, forged
by Telchar at the first rising of the sun, the sword of kings; and
Elrond stilled and looked at him as he had before, almost blazing, if
the flame were not so soft.

just my observation: out of the two brothers, there is ONE who did NOT spend his life building the most peaceful human civilization in history, but instead was canonically proactively involved in several wars and even 6,000 years later was still
super-proud of his foster-son for killing a load of orcs and mooning about how glorious and fair the armies of the last
alliance and of valinor were. Guess which brother it was. Take a guess! 🙂 🙂 🙂 anyway in my own mental finagling of looping elros into harmony with the world-shifting turnaround of the end-stage edain -> early numenor involved headcanoning that he was ultra-traumatized by the bloodshed in Sirion and thereafter repelled by violence and weapons, but that this trauma wound up facilitating more sincere and non-lizard-brain beliefs too, and coincided with the edain’s mindset at just the right time.

Anyway I like Elrond trying to reterraform his brain around the new arrangement of the world around his twin brother, see the fic’s prompt phrase “one foot in another world” etc, which applies to multiple strands of the fic. I tried to weave without being too repetitive but it’s hard to tell from my perspective.

Also wtf pre-Elendil canon info on Narsil is surprisingly patchy for such a Significant thingamajig! 

“Aye,” he said again, and the word wobbled. “Far more fitting a glory, I
think, for your people, and your times.” He pulled Elros’s hands from
the sword hilt and pressed them to his own heart, so tenderly it was
like breaking. “Keep the sword. I think you have found a better use for
it than I.”

Elros sat and stared at their entwined hands until he felt like crying,
and told himself it was weariness, though he felt the knocking at the
back of his mind.

“I did not wield it.” His voice was choked.

“As I said, a better use than I.”

From the Unfinished Tales: “But no man wore a sword in Númenor, and for long years few
indeed were the weapons of warlike intent that were made in the land.” Anyway this snippet is just boringly snipped from Isaiah 2:4 – “and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into
pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither
shall they learn war any more.”

it’s kind of new to Elrond (and, at least consciously, to Elros), but their instincts say they are on the cusp of something. Elrond semi-consciously realizing that he and the world has changed around Elros and Elros semi-consciously realizing he can never go back, never step down, he will never be his brother’s equal again, he has lost something already without noting it.

Elros closed his eyes. Against his raw fingers, he felt his brother’s heartbeat. The first sound he had ever heard.  Loss. It is loss, came foresight’s unfinished cruelty.

“Elros?”

He lifted his head.

“Elrond, I have missed something,” he said, finally. “What have I missed?”

I guess there is no Nile River or Egypt in Middle Earth but uh. Though also an idea i had at some point is that from childhood e&e would confirm their own perception of reality by checking in with each other – the only constants in their lives.

Elrond looked up at him so strangely the hairs stood up on the back of
Elros’s neck. He was used to understanding what he saw in his twin’s
eyes.

“Do you not hear them, Elros?” Elrond whispered.

“Hear them?” Elros whispered back, almost holding his breath. “Hear
what? I hear the sea and the mountains, and the people calling for their
kin—”

“Listen!”

They stared at each other, wide-eyed. The voices of the Edain encircled
them. Elros heard again the Bëorian verses, raised in praise to the sky
and the earth, heard a new one to the sea.

He heard a name, Indilzar, that was star-foam.

“They are calling for you.”

The look in Elrond’s eyes burned deep, and Elros realized that it was pride.

“They are singing for you.”

I don’t……have anything to say about this. /)_o bamboo i know you said this was your favorite, but idk. Just that I am v satisfied with it.

Uh…I like Tolkien Language Fuckery. bamboo also surpassed my own thoughts while pillorying me via IM – the Edain experiencing arda which is music and sending back music. I did want the Dunedain’s sea-fever/longing/love to have roots in smth more fundamental and unknowable than Valinor.

“Did you mark when I put my foot in it?” he said finally. His voice cracked, and he laughed.

“I know not.” Elrond gave a rueful smile. “But dear heart, it was before the sea rose to hold you. For me, at least.”

Gift-receiving/responsibility-taking/binding-by-love-and-duty/etc that is semi-’accidental’/unplanned yet irrevocable is such a good tho! this ask’s selection references other passages a lot. The pseudo-flashback to earendil vs ancalagon, where Elros chews everyone out, etc.

“I know. I knew and would not see. I was with you. I was afraid, I am
afraid. I did not wish to be anywhere but by your side. Forgive me,
forgive me, I am so sorry. The war—” Elros felt more laughter bubbling
up. The dented swords held up in the glow of the land’s death throes, in
the flash of Eärendil — rags and bloodied hands and empty vengeance.  Now comes the night.  “They thought there was nothing more here on earth, on this side of the stars, but I know, I know,
in my heart, it cannot be that. It is not release without life before.
And it cannot be that we will be denied release. And I know I…”

I know that I am lost, the words came unspoken.

The problem with this fic is that it is almost entirely stitched out of canon references. /o But fatalism-resistance in arda marred, life as a term of suffering only released by death vs life as the only good path to death, and the spontaneous and like…instinctive conviction that life was given to men and life must be good. I don’t think elros’s choice was like, ~heroically sacrificing his chance at immortality for his people or anything else tangent to disingenuous internally-contradictory sour-grapes immortality discourse, but i think it was the edain and their own arc that ensnared him into being truthful to himself and the ‘nothing in the world holds its savor for long’ thing about humans, and accept that faith is exercised differently for himself vs elrond (“He knows not to what end he rides; yet if he knew, he still would go on.” says Aragorn, re: Merry – it applies to both twins.)

“They would go where you go, if you sailed over the rim of the world.
Do you not see? I have heard them say, a people for whom the  Narn i Hîn Húrin
is not a tragedy of their past, but the only true tale of their
existence, would accept no deliverance but that which tore them from
that tale’s doom and made a new ending. Have you not done that? Torn
away and remade the black sword, and the river, and the sea?

‘do i spell it out like an obnoxious dumbass or should i be more subtle’ I thought then remembered i have never heard anyone make this point before + pontificating like this is very IC for elrond and decided ‘fuck it, full meta.’

Anyway this fic wanted to be a story about the edain generally which wouldn’t fit the prompt, so i kind of had to reorient the scope into a ‘how the edain’s story interfaces with e&e’ and…it was p helpful in visualizing the unspooling. The silm scene that always haunted me most was the scene of hurin and morwen at turin and nienor’s grave, morwen’s death, and hurin waking up. The sheer yawning gap between that and the next time the edain emerge into the spotlight of the narrative, at the voyage to numenor….

There ARE other motives behind this fic than my eye-glazing re: fanon elros but uh. Idk.

bamboocounting replied to your post:                   For the DVD commentary meme: Ónen i-Estel Edain,…                

   hey, SAD…(elrond and elros approaching the “our brother the king of x
country” from the opposite end) and ofc i love every bit of this, esp
the Edain singing    

<3<3<3 bamboo i am so glad! ur opinion on stuff like this is v gratifying to hear 🙂 (and ofc, your thoughts about like, sorta-related issues were v helpful too :))

it is something of a challenge to write ‘how we got here’ fics when you’re as lazy about buildup as i am tho >_o

bamboocounting replied to your post:
                   @bamboocounting hey buddy same to you 😉                

   try ch xxvi    

bamboocounting replied to your post:                   @bamboocounting hey buddy same to you 😉                

   I am currently going through joseph conrad’s mirror of the sea! you might also like it?    

ieugrfjkwfdke i’m sorry i’m not sure what just happened!!

(also never heard of it! but i just googled and it sounds epic. “a last hour’s confession the terms of my relation with
the sea, which beginning mysteriously, like any great passion the
inscrutable Gods send to mortals” O.O)