yavieriel replied to your post :             ღ Gimli                

   Regarding the finer points of hair-pulling, as someone with a pretty
sensitive scalp, hair-pulling is A+++ if done correctly, complete
mood-killer if done wrong.  The secret is to grab a /lot/ of hair in one
go, so the pressure is distributed fairly evenly across the scalp and
it gives a nice, firm tug with good control over the head and doesn’t
just yank out a bit of hair.  So a few thick braids would be good, but
not grabbing one or two little braids    

skdjgisdjisfdgf omg what a good explanation. upon reflection on past examples i agree, but i don’t recall ever experiencing this being done badly. which sounds fake but uhhhh h hh hhhh maybe i repressed the memories

swampdiamonds replied to your post:                   🔥 Saruman                

   this is really interesting, and feels really spot-on    

i’m glad it feels right to you, i don’t think i’ve solidified or thought it all through properly yet. saruman is one of those characters i don’t think about often, but when i do there’s a lot of weird junk in there.

yavieriel replied to your post “🔥 Saruman”

                           
                   

  Congratulations, you’ve managed to make me sad
about Saruman, which I suspected was possible but had no idea how it
could be done.  Thanks for that lovely start to the week 😛            
     

was it that sympathetic? i had no idea! but thanks.

lordnelson100 replied to your post “🔥 Saruman”

                           
                   

This is super interesting brooding to me! I
think his cruelty towards the Shire and Frodo is also specifically about
Gandalf. How every single thing that he has identified as weakness in
Gandalf turned out to be a strength. I think he really *despises*
Gandalf (and loves, and hates him).                    

yeah he’s definitely very obsessed with gandalf too, i think precisely for the reasons you enumerate!

vinyatari replied to your post “🔥 Children of Hurin 🔥”

                  

  i love mablung                    

more appreciation!!!! most long-suffering with some of the best lines ❤

more replies i missed scraping up the last time:

garden-ghoul replied to your post “gurguliare replied to your post:              gurguliare replied to…”

   

  right right… stop explaining things, stop
categorizing things, this is the whole reason why lotr is better than
silm and this has been analyzed 6 ways from sunday so everyone knows it
                 

DOES ANYONE ELSE ANALYZE IT THAT WAY…i thought i was the only one. tho i think “better” isn’t what i was thinking of really. more like. bigger. in spite of being narrower story-wise. lotr is bigger on the INSIDE! 😀

garden-ghoul replied to your post “gurguliare replied to your post:              gurguliare replied to…”

                           
                   

“I get off on meta-characterization”–andie vardasvapors    

  “I get off on humiliation bestilality kink, but
only in service to meta-characterization”–andie vardasvapors          
       

hey ghoul!!!!!!! ………….shut up!!!!!!!!!

thelioninmybed replied to your post gurguliare replied to your post:              gurguliare replied to…                        
                  

this is my favourite answer so far                    

why do i make posts at 2am ANYWAY


simaethae replied to your post crocordile replied to your post:                   hey guys, ask me…

                           
                  

    i hadn’t previously considered historical
reenactment as a numenorean hobby and this now seems like a massive
oversight                    

omg I hadn’t either!!!! but yes!!! ahhh did you see that post @crocordile made about numenoreans developing a color-coded system of dance that slowly turned into a big political signalling kerfuffle….?

erotetica replied to your post:                  thelioninmybed replied to your post:           …                

  I forgot about the mindfuck-brick-roads saeros is. less of a ditz than I thought    

OMG lol i didn’t even think of that!

yavieriel replied to your post “yavieriel replied to your post “actualmermaid replied to your post: …”

                           
                   

    yes definitely re: Elves being content to stick
with one thing for a very long time, and not feeling any pressure about,
like, being a generic member of a household who does whatever seasonal
work is necessary, there’s not necessarily that drive to Accomplish
Something.  I mean Voronwe talks about wanting to just spend the rest of
his life laying in a meadow naming flowers, and while given the context
I think his mental state was making his feelings a bit extreme,        
                       
                   

     there still being that underlying sense that
just enjoying the world is all that is necessary, not having that human
drive to make their mark on it.  And just a generous heaping of idyllic,
idealized medieval/pastoral common life, lots of seasonal festivals and
everyone working together.  Give me all that sweet, sweet idealized
feudalism where it’s all close-knit community and deep personal bonds of
mutual loyalty and affection.                          

   (I care about fantasy economics a LOT and also
you can see why I don’t get along with large swathes of the fandom,
because like.  Feudalism and heirarchies and nobility: totally
problematic and IRL not very fun, but the idealized fantasy version is
just.  So emotionally satisfying to me in ways that more egalitarian
approaches are not.  I just want someone who I can unreservedly swear my
undying loyalty to, and have their respect and gratitude in return.)  
               

oh yeah i can see that. it’s true for well…a ton of fictional settings, where “technically”
in “reality” it would suck but like, yk, that’s why it’s a fictional book! more commonly it’s “this dangerous/violent
situation would suck irl but i love it in a book bc it’s so emotionally
satisfying”, but one can definitely apply that to, yeah, i guess idealized views of certain types of society too. i suppose technically speaking, there’s nothing about it that’s substantially different there from say, knowing being superhero would not be fun “irl” but loving the un-deconstructed superhero vicarious life anyway.

yavieriel replied to your post “actualmermaid replied to your post:  hey guys, ask me…”

    I tend to grump that fandom puts too much
Victorian class-division into the idea of lords v. servants, as opposed
to medieval servants as trusted members of the household/family and
often nobles in their own right, see the Lord Chamberlain, etc.        
         

  But also, famous elven scholars deciding to
spend a decade or two sweeping floors and doing laundry while pondering
some knotty problem.

Also also, stuff like your elves who do the
laundry are also going to be your dyers, so expert chemists who produce
brilliant complex dyes and incidentally also do the laundry because it
uses the same set-up as dyeing so you do it all in the same place.      
            

actualmermaid replied to your post “actualmermaid replied to your post:                   hey guys, ask me…”

                       I can also imagine you’re an elf who’s just
created your greatest work in a certain craft, and you’re physically and
mentally exhausted, and so you decide to spend a few hundred years
doing manual labor on a farm somewhere instead of trying to constantly
be the Best And Most Brilliant Elf Ever in (original field)            
     

YESSSSSSSSS to every one of these!!! <333333

in general my perennial bamboozlement with like, a lot of meta and fic and character analyses lmao, is “do you know HOW LONG A THOUSAND YEARS IS. BY MULTIPLES OF EVERYTHING A PERSON CAN DO AND CHANGE IN ONE YEAR.” i mean i do assume immortality also comes with a certain level of extra procrastination lol, but only so much!

anyway i think it also makes a lot sense for elves to both a) do a lot of stuff that isn’t “their real job” or w/e or have multiple jobs (as we see with multiple elf characters in the books!) just like you guys so excellently described, but ALSO b) at the same time to be more content than humans to stick with one thing for a very long time because they’re naturally/instinctively like that + they don’t have death-related time-pressure where sticking with one thing is cutting into their time with another thing (which is probably something of an intertwined chicken-and-egg phenomenon rather than two totally separate things) but definitely not so much so as to cancel the first one out.

i think it could also incline towards that thing where “this person is The Indispensible Person Who’s Always There oh no they suddenly unexpectedly died wtf do we do now”….but prob a lot LESS so if it’s just expected that people will change jobs and take vacations and take up a new skill or role or project all the time.

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elfmaidens replied to your post:                  elfmaidens replied to your post:                 …                

   `the book of wonder is another book by lord dunsany– it’s a
collection of short stories! they’re really good– my personal fave is
the quest of the queen’s tears. anyway, you can read it here: gutenberg.org/files/7…
i highly recommend it, especially if ur enjoying the king of elfland’s daughter!    

oh cool! thanks for the link, also i love short stories! now that i think about it actually lol i think gogol did mention this collection to me while selling me on elfland’s daughter, the title rang a bell but i guess my brain is just a sieve atm.

thelioninmybed replied to your post “Okay so I’m a noob but like why is it that it seems like only mortal…”

   the answer is DEFINITELY ‘hinky gender shit’ but
I’m gonna link a post that’s almost entirely tangential but came up on
my dash v. close to this one and idk come on Tolkien, if ANYONE was
gonna hook up with those uncanny valley looking mofos
http://notbecauseofvictories.tumblr.com/post/163244791260/i-just-saw-your-tags-concerning-shape-of-water
    

oh. that url. well i clicked the link and I do agree – the alienness IS the whole point! uh. also. omg lion, this is a very coincidentally-timed reply……..how did YOU know what i was writing just half an hour ago.

also, 3rd reply: @yavieriel i did not manage to collect your reply, but the title of the cracky celtic book is “Earth Light: The Ancient Path of Transformation: Rediscovering the wisdom of ancient celtic and faery lore (lmao) and i’ve just been skipping around collecting bits

anghraine replied to your post:                   anghraine replied to your post:                  …                

   SAME SAME SAME. like, I love Cate Blanchett but also how many
puppies do I need to sacrifice to get Silm Galadriel distinguished from
film Galadriel 

RIGHT YEAH THAT’S ONE GOOD EXAMPLE *sneakily pretends there exist any other elf actors i liked*

(no jk jk lee pace and liv tyler were fine, i just have extreme pavlovian negative associations with thranduil and arwen’s movie writing that have nothing to do with the poor actors)

garden-ghoul replied to your post: anghraine replied to your post:  anghraine replied…

 
this post made me gay so thanks. uhhh what I
mean is I really like your aragorn narrative meta? and now I am
imagining each of the 6 books of lord of the rings getting its own like
60-90 minute movie which would be perfect. like maybe you actually DON’T
have to intercut the marshes and rohan u know                    

omg ghoul i am so flattered when my posts make you gay! i didn’t know that counted as meta but i will accept this compliment. anyway YEAH this would be really good to watch i think! the weirdness of translating books to screen are honestly v fun to think about

yavieriel replied to your photo: allthingseurope:

The Devil’s Pulpit, Finnich Glen, Scotland (by…”

To be fair those sorts of places are usually
called “The Devil’s _____” because they have a charming penchant for
flash-flooding and drowning people.  Yay mountains!                   

ooohhhhhhh THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE….and completely coincidentally it also makes sense that i keep tagging pics like that with ‘rivendell’…. >_>

thelioninmybed replied to your post:
                   Consider the unexplained sentient rabbit observing…                

   Watership Down Is Set In Arda   

thelioninmybed replied to your post:                   Consider the unexplained sentient rabbit observing…                

   oh you already went there. Never comment before backreading.    

dkjsfdjjkdfdj BUT LION WHY DO YOU go straight to deciding to remindd me about the (I have heard) soul-destroying book about bunnies dying horribly and oppressing each other when we were clearly just discussing…………ok a kids book about bunnies just being afraid of dying horribly, but my point stands that you are mean. unless maybe watership down is just the default association for all sentient rabbit stuff, i don’t know these things…….

yavieriel replied to your post:                  If ME turns into r world and like we have dead…                

   I mean, I personally feel like Manwe would be horrified by all Zeus’
rapey shenanigans, but also willing to chalk that up to “actually just
Manwe and Ingwe having sometimes-kinky sex in a lot of inappropriate
places”   

I have not really encountered anything about this ship before but rumors of vala and elf roleplay shenanigans spreading into myth is a hilarious mental image

crocordile replied to your post:                  erotetica replied to your post:
                 …                

   what the fuck    

hashtag relatable buddy. i would complain about my mutuals except i prob deserve all of this

erotetica replied to your post:                  erotetica replied to your post:
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        he still tries on the space boat. half of
earendil’s voyage is swerving. ‘have you tried living claritin clear’  
               

PLEASE. maiar colds last 5000 years.

yavieriel replied to your post:                  If Maglor was in the modern world would he LOWKEY…                

   one of the joys of backreading is I totally assumed the comment
about Ulmo dabbing and drowning Beleriand was talking about Ulmo getting
high as balls instead of dancing    

Okay but this one ALSO WORKS. High on…….disintegrating tainted earth……

yavieriel replied to your post:                   a number of hair replies                

   I agree with pretty much everything except age making someone
socially intelligible? I am terrible at recognizing peoples’ ages, I
usually do it the other way round and deduce their ages – or rather
their lifestyle – from social cues and era-markers. Like, are they in
school? What kind of school? Full time job y/n? Children y/n?
Grandchildren? Own a car? A house? (Also I’m like. 30 and look maaaaybe
20 at the oldest, so that doesn’t help matters.)    

oh huh yeah that is true – i am p bad with ages too, though i still get a very ‘whaaaaaaa’ feeling when i realize that a person’s age is not what i unconsciously ‘expected’ in my interactions with them. I think in my experience not being able to suss out an age level is unsettling more when actually interacting extensively with someone rather than just like, observing them. Though….it might be also possiblyyyy more of a deal in a more socially categorized sort of society with big issues surrounding elders vs younger people and age orders of children etc? but i’m not a historian so pls correct me if i’m guessing wrong.