skeletontemple replied to your post:
                   this whole “arwen not really having anything to do…                

   vv i should inform you that i finally sat down and read smith of
wootton major just to figure out what you were on about in the tags   

   i still don’t really know what you’re on about but it was a
wonderful and proper faery story so *shrugs* all’s well that ends well
etc etc    

WHAT WAIT WHAT YOU READ WOOTTON MAJOR hold up tell me ur thoughts go through my wootton major tag go through gogol and emu’s wootton major tags. uh. i forget if anyone else ever blogs about it.

i’m. apologize. for my tags, and my tag+post+precedent-triangulation mode of blogging. uhhhh unfortunately that’s honestly the closest i can get to mapping out a partial narrative parallel bc mostly i can’t grab it either. maybe gogol or emu will bail me out. or i’ll try again tomorrow.

this whole “arwen not really having anything to do with humans until she married one” thing next to that “all of elrond’s relationships/flings/romances were with mortals until celebrían” hc . . . we’re like 3/4 of the way to a coherent narrative parallel here and i can’t wait till we cross that last 1/4

dusfvgidusjvnid THAT WAS TECHNICALLY A CRACK HEADCANON I MADE UP ON THE SPOT AND DID NOT THINK ABOUT AT ALL BUT yes i see ur ¾ths of a parallel, let me try to spitball something to fill the gap…. something something instinctively avoiding what feels vaguely right until the last moment because ignorance is bliss something something the people that are permanent are known more deeply after knowing much of all alternatives, etc.

molasses and half-elfs and karamazovs oh my

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skeletontemple replied to your post:                   “I was at the council I speak of, for I was the…                

   was there ever a world where he DIDN’T recite all the songs from memory, that’s basically every night in rivendell lol   

alaisjdhsfjos I MEAN UH in lotr i def get the impression he listened to stuff more than told it, but that IS a pretty short and unrepresentative window of time. maybe elves saying ‘i wanna go west’ is actually code for ‘i ran out of new stories to tell and audiences to bother so now i need to go find another audience of strangers and undead ppl to blab to’

ivanaskye replied to your post:                   "I was at the council I speak of, for I was the…                

   I LOVE EVERYRHINF ABOHT THIS???? And yes…. every night in Imladris…. THIS BEAN IS A BEAN BEYOND COMPARE!   

ur love for the bean is beyond compare! 😀

skeletontemple replied to your post:                   "I was at the council I speak of, for I was the…               

   also also did you see the part before that where elrond’s
introduction is described and it mentions his smile like the summer sun
and his laughter    

I DID I DIIIIIIIDDDDD. <333333333 paired with a description identical to published version! tbh one of my *drags hands down face* things about fanon…..is that in lotr proper, on the very first page elrond appears on, there’s at least one instance of him smiling, one of him laughing, one reference to his gladness visible even at first glance to someone who has never seen him before, and one to his bright eyes. Not even including things after that scene!

one *face drag* i recall rn was that textpost of ‘things ppl who didn’t read lotr are missing out on’ and listing bilbo interrupting the council and elrond ‘putting his diplomat face on’ when HE DOES NOTHING OF THE SORT!! he laughs at the break in tension and teases bilbo back!!! you didn’t read lotr either hm 

  also, full disclosure, the first time i read that sentence the image
that popped into my head was a medieval court jester. now, i am not
saying we should accept elrond as a professional fool, even i would not
make such outlandish claims. what i’m saying is that he might’ve at some
point learned to juggle.    

hey listen, i am pretty sure most kids’ image of a king’s herald is that puffy-cheeked guy with the gigantic horn in all the drawings of medieval ye olde tymes SOOOOO. anyway re: the fool as the one guy who is totally allowed to interrupt and make fun of the king and make jokes about the courtiers to puncture their drama when they get too srs bsns – that’s like, literally Bilbo’s role in lotr so, elrond def LIKES the concept, at the very least….

garden-ghoul replied to your post: “garden-ghoul replied to your post:                   nose and writing…”

does the indian molasses cousin still taste EXTREMELY strongly of iron? because that is my only complaint about molasses, it could use maybe half the iron

OK MY BRAIN REFUSED TO UPLOAD THE INFO for ages but i now remember that the english name for the thing is jaggery! its hindi name is something that can’t exactly be spelled properly with an english alphabet, approximately ‘gur’ with a rolled ‘r’

anyway sorry i’m not sure!!! i unfortunately can’t pinpoint the iron-flavor from memory to mentally compare it to molasses bc i’ve never noticed it before

garden-ghoul replied to your post: “garden-ghoul replied to your post:                   nose and writing…”

I can’t believe you can actually STOP COLDS FROM OCCURRING by drinking the right things?? humans weren’t meant to have this much power

tbh it’s PROBABLY more the ‘drinking tons of hot stuff’ part that helps more than the actual content of the hot stuff, but i really do swear by it from repeated experience both with it and with just regular types of tea. not scientific or anything, but otoh it can be tasted even when you can’t taste anything else through your cold and the spice clears out your sinuses immediately, so. hm maybe i should post the recipe…..

thelioninmybed replied to your post: “For sex meme if its not problem: any of brothers Karamazov.”

i’ve finally got this for kindle, very excited to get all these cool jokes

damn I was hoping you would already have read enough to get it! 😀 anyway uh i was too tired and totally couldn’t figure out a proper devil reference in ivan’s entry but crocordile did! the natural conclusion is *sticks dick out window and laughs about how he’s gonna freeze the devil’s dick off*

ivanaskye replied to your post:                   🔥 like, elrond? Tell me about elrond                

 I can’t believe this is THE post (or at least… one of em…) that made me friends w you lmao. ITS SO GOOD ITS SO GOOD!!    

djfajfajjfwfjsk THANKS I AM GLAD YOU LIKE ITTTT. it’s one of the ones that was most satisfying to me tbh, afair

“I was at the council I speak of, for I was the minstrel and counsellor of Gilgalad.” ~ Elrond, “At Rivendell”, Return of the Shadow, presented without comment because it’s perfect as is

AIUDSFIDJHDJG…MINSTREL OF GIL-GALAD….I’M…FUCKIGN—

god, i thought i had run out of moments (and fingers and toes to count them on) in the HOME where I had some vague theory about “hmm i mean this is probably really Out There but what if it was like ___?” only to then read Tolkien ALMOST LITERALLY ECHOING EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.

Ok it’s not THAT close to what i was thinking since the context of that line is:

‘You remember?’ said Bingo [Frodo], looking astonished at Elrond. ‘But I thought this tale was of days very long ago,’

‘So
it is,’ said Elrond, laughing. ‘But my memory reaches back a long way
[>to long ago]. My father was Eärendel who was born in Gondolin seven
years before it fell and my mother was Elwing daughter of Lúthien
daughter of King Thingol of Doriath, and I have seen many ages in the
West of the World. I was at the council I speak of, for I was the minstrel and counsellor of Gilgalad…

– i.e., about the Last Alliance era and therefore not entirely in-line with tolkien’s later narrative of the Eregion Incident, unless elrond is being consciously facetious here, in a, idk, alfred pennyworth vein, but even so, i wanna….finagle it into canon, like amroth-less galadriel. IT’S CUTE. even if he was actually describing an earlier phase of his lifetime, it’s cute! um. because i have a stupid sense of humor, one of the vague theories i had WAS definitely the whole ‘what would post-apocalyptic loremastery even LOOK like’ idea described here but ran out of room to speculate if this entailed, fucking, reciting all the perfectly-remembered stories he had heard from far and wide whenever he came home. but THANKS, TOLKIEN, FOR ENABLING MY DUMBEST DESIRES.

anyway uh. what was the first thing i wanted to respond with. oh yeah ‘flakey aristocrat minstrel pipes up suddenly that this annatar person is Bad News Bears and then shapes up into a general over the course of the next 500 years’ is a fun character arc. someone who can write multichapter stories write it.

skeletontemple replied to your post:
                   For the DVD commentary meme: Ónen i-Estel Edain,…                

   aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I am dead this relationship has slain me    

skeletontemple replied to your post:                   For the DVD commentary meme: Ónen i-Estel Edain,…                

   tbh dropping this into your inbox i was thinking to myself “is this
too long? it’s too long” but before reading this fic i Did Not Care
about elrond and then after it i made a freakin TEXT DOCUMENT to keep up
with my elrond thoughts so i was looking for the section that changed
my thoughtpatterns the most without leaving anything out   

SHSKJDBFEGIURDJVGU oh my godddd….that is prob one of the most ego-stroking things anyone has said to me 😀 (and u are welcome to share stray thoughts from your text doc anytime!)

For the DVD commentary meme: Ónen i-Estel Edain, from “Ah, Elros, how proud am I!” to “his eyes dancing with mirth.” (aka the part with the highest concentration of Elrond Making Facial Expressions)

aufihsdjifhd thank u and i had never thought of that lmao. ok THIS IS A RLY LONG AND OVERLY BUSY SELECTION but…i will attempt to do it properly, and i will try to comment on ur facial expressions thing. link here!

Ah, Elros, how proud am I! So proud — so proud I have no words to hold
it. How lucky am I, to know such pride. I shall never forget it, never,
never.

elrond trying to inarticulately express why he really wants to be immortal without actually being conscious of the fact that that is what he is saying. to ‘know’ more means a lot of things – to be lucky enough to be alive to know such experiences and feelings, and have the memories afterwards

while ofc it wouldn’t have fit well to digress into this explicitly in-story, i tried hinting/writing from the assumption that elros had always been a bit more troubled, lost, and trauma-hobbled out of the twins, until this sudden blooming with the edain where everything was suddenly right – so this would be elrond’s perspective on it, after decades of being so close and devoted to his sad, weird, brother, seeing him come into himself and the edain so vividly – the pride.

Say but the word, and I will go where you go too, if you need it.” His eyes and voice were brimming with tears.

“I would follow you, my brother.”

His head bent. Elros felt lips brush his fingers.

“I would follow you, my lord.”

hey my narrative kinks are simple & embarrassing. no um. i remember in the first draft it was “will” instead of “would”, “would” is considerably better. also i like uh…when 2 people who are used to never being surprised by each other, wind up surprising each other.

“Don’t—” He did not understand the clutch of panic, but if he had broken
one tale of doom he would not craft another for one who had never been
and could never be free of him. “Whatever it shall be, it shall not be
like that. Not at my heels. 

 i like the thingamajig in the late third age/lotr timeframe etc how personally and seriously elrond takes his brother’s legacy and his preposterous (but entirely unprecedented, so who’s to say if it’s preposterous or not) conception of the dunedain as his kin, but his political allegiances and realm incorporation are v independent of them. idk if elros’s attempt to avoid doom on elrond’s part is entirely successful in the end ofc, but at least it’s only personal/emotional.

And…” He swallowed. “You ought not make promises you have no business keeping.”

For a moment Elrond’s eyes flashed mutinous, that same defiance so
consuming it could seemingly only express itself in death, then the
flame banked. He met Elros’s gaze a searching moment, then nodded.

ofc mostly about the feanorians, but also earendil may
have told e&e “i promise i’ll be back”
and elwing may have told them “i promise i’ll
always be here” – or if they didn’t, it’s a conscious
and p significant refusal. plus the entire
trauma of the loss of a homeland under their
feet. promises can be such egotistical things. i vaguely theorize that elros understands this much better/more naturally than elrond, who only internalizes it through long experience.

Something was calling far and clear, like a trumpet on a high hill out of sight. That to the old time there was no returning.

i think i rambled about the whole idea of things being described as ‘lost’ rather than destroyed in the akallabeth fic commentary. elros cannot go back, the edain cannot go back, to the people they were before.

“The lives of mortal men,” Elros murmured finally. “I know not, I see nothing, but that there is more than memory.

grumblemumblegrumble I’M ALWAYS SO ANNOYED at the assumption that elrond has foresight but elros does not. if anything, foresight is a more widespread and characteristically numenorean thing than an elf thing – for elves it seems to be v much a specific-family trait.

anyway yeah this is stolen from aragorn’s death scene.

The old lands and tales were true, but of life robbed before its
flower — unconscionable, unbearable. Surely, it must not be so
unbearable.

idk i have always felt that the lack of commentary on the massive sea-change mindshift represented by the edain’s transition from beleriand to numenor is one of my biggest frustrations with silm fandom generally. i think i whined about that in another post a while back tho.

I am lost,  he marveled. And the bereavement clawed deep.

lmao i wrote this fic v soon after reading smith of wootton major

the last Edain of the old world were singing, they were singing for him, him alone, and it rang in his ears like a death-knell far off in the mists of dawn by the sea, sweetened strangely

uh, ‘adopt death maybe’? help me out here.

for a moment he thought Elrond was crying. But when he looked into his
face, he saw in amazement that his hand was over his mouth and his eyes
dancing with mirth.

HE’S CUTE ❤ HE’S CUTE <333 maybe this sort of ‘i expected he would cry/laugh but instead he’s laughing/crying?’ might be a recurring thing for other people re: elrond? idk! anyway it is much more about the ‘what have i gotten myself into?’ line than the death-knell line right before this. neither of them realize what they’re getting at/into re: the choice, even though they’ve unconsciously made theirs already.

fanart replies

btw if any of u didn’t know that readmores usually work on mobile as long as there’s text in the text field ABOVE the readmore…

lesbiansilmarien replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   DUUUDE THEIR DESIGNS ARE SO COOL???    

omg thank u i’m glad you think so!!!  i haven’t decided what their ears look like yet

actualmermaid replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   Elrond, turning up occasionally with more evidence of his
adventuring: “this could be us but you had to go and do BORING THINGS”  
 

like live in “paradise” under a “blessing” or whatever

vinyatari replied to your photo:                YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   elrond looks v smug. also i want a cape with a large pocket    

large pocket capes to store your nerd junk in are very useful

thelioninmybed replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   i want all their clothes every last pocketcape    

even the terrible crown….

crocordile replied to your photo:                  YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   THIS IS SO CUTE OH MY GOD…   

berrysphase replied to your photo:                  YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   hahaha this is fantastic! I love the elf boots vs the fancy laced sandals and the sticking out tongue.    

awwwwwwww guys ❤

gurguliare replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   FASHION    

pipistrellus replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   thanks i love the requisition forms    

the 2 MOST important purposes of this doodle tbh

skeletontemple replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

My heart of hearts would like to believe that Elrond was barefoot
whenever at all possible and ignored all advice to for the love of g-d
get some foot protection on those wild archeology escapades, but also,
gosh, Those Boots

no i lied the most important is

BOOTS™

skeletontemple replied to your photo:                 YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   Maybe he stepped on an ancient sword and learned his lesson. Or
maybe he stepped on a sword and didn’t learn anything or ever mention it
and then later for unrelated reasons Elros made a law about his
brother, in Numenor, barefoot, and how it had to stop,    

dfjkghkdjgkdjfkd

omfg wait now i’m wondering if….elrond is too much human to walk on
top of snow like legolas…or if he didn’t learn how for decades/centuries after choosing….

skeletontemple replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

   Why have I chosen the replies on this post of yours, of all places,
to ramble about barefoot wild child Elrond speculation    

bc we love him <33333 🙂

bamboocounting replied to your photo:                   YO WHAT UP I haven’t drawn a person in like 6…                

 
books vs scrolls omg… (and YES that was a blindingly clear expression) 😛

i’m glad! it was v small and smudgy so i wasn’t sure if other people could decipher 😛

Okay so I know you’ve done mushrooms/Yavanna connections in the past but have you considered: Mandos mushroom motif

friend i have thought about this for a week or so but i’m not sure if i got this right. do you mean Mandos the Vala, or Mandos the Halls?

If it’s about the Halls, yeah I love the idea of….uh…..elvish reembodiment being like if you get a werewolf to eat a mushroom, or drop a mushroom into a coal-fired oven, or step on a mushroom’s stem until its head comes off, the mushroom will sprout up again, in the same Fairy Ring, because the Real Mushroom is the sleeping mycelium network of interconnected fibers deep beneath the earth. It just needs to be nourished and nudged into sprouting up again. I also enjoy the idea that elves sprang into existence like mushrooms popping up after a rain. This is very cute!

Any thoughts on Tolkien characters and love languages? (I am kinda thinking here about Gary Chapman’s Five Love Languages, which was a staple of my childhood but probably not of anyone else’s)

Ah sorry no, I know nothing about this subject, and upon googling it I’m not sure I’d have a lot of thoughts about in it if I did know more about it, unfortunately. Sounds like something that you could maybe make a post about yourself though!

(Also, sorry for the late reply!)