titles (i put a few so you can choose which one you want to do!): no rest for the wicked, in the woods somewhere, but be prepared to bleed

“but be prepared to bleed”: Finarfin’s last encounter with his children before they part ways after the kinslaying at Alqualondë. The range of different reactions: Galadriel’s vengeful fury at Fëanor veiling her own independent desire to go to Middle Earth anyway. Finrod’s friendship with Turgon doing the same with him, though expressing itself very differently. Angrod completely tunnel-vision focused on getting out and going after the rest of the Noldor and Not Listening To Anyone or Anything. Aegnor unsettlingly, oddly, eerily certain that Middle Earth holds his, and their, fate, and he cannot and will not refuse it. Arguments and counterarguments are thrown back and forth between father and children, and voices are raised, but none of their lines of dialogue hold any real conviction they can change one another’s minds – it’s just the only way in this situation they can say farewell and i love you and I’m afraid of what awaits you.

“These were not the reflections of stars…. tasting salt like blood.” from kâtha batîna lôkhî

I already covered this section in this other ask but since that ask was a loooooong section that i had to gloss over somewhat, I’ll add a few more specific points just about this sub-section!

-tbh this is one of my fave descriptive paragraphs i’ve written 🙂

-this fic was one of those sweet-spot shortfics where the whole ficlet is nicely outlined in your head beforehand, but also when you start writing, something just makes your fingers fly like mad without any forethought whatsoever and fills it in better than you could have consciously puzzled it out. not so much trying to get the words to match the image in your head as the words generating the images simultaneously. you know? idk.

-”shrouded with a water that seemed wetter than the water around it“ i stole this from voyage of the dawn treader lol

-”He saw, or remembered, from a place he had walked while on the path of a dream or a tale“ all the “or’s” are kind of a…..the things separated by “or” blur together and in some contexts there’s no relevant difference between them

-”told by lost parents by firelight in secret“ these oc’s are people i deliberately didn’t want to mentally detail too much, but i had the vague concept of them coming from a nominally-king’s-men family who converted at least to the faithful’s cause late in pharazon’s reign, and felt the faithful’s secretive oral tradition version of history was a valuable counterpoint to the state-sanctioned controlled public version, but i wanted to keep the belief side of things ambiguous. also half my thoughts about the akallabeth are stolen from exodus so.

-i already mentioned the faramir and great wave echo in my other post 🙂

-”He stretched out his hand for them, opening his mouth unheeding“ one of my obsessions, like….since i was maybe 4 or 5? is the almost-orgasm-ish-building feeling that the emotional/mental intensity inside you cannot be actualized through anything less than death. i mentioned it in my war of wrath fic too i guess…

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   warning on the traitor baru cormorant in that it has a looooot of
homophobia – like, the kind where lgbt people are killed/mutilated    

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   its not like … violence for the sake of violence tho it’s more like
commentary on imperialism/homophobia and that stuff. it’s an intense
book and it doesn’t end super happily but it is rly good    

   yeah i was about to say that @sathinfection​!!! it’s rly a heartwrenching book but it’s good    

ackkk 😦 thanks for the heads up, i’ll prob google around a bit more to see if it’s my thing or not 

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   uh also it depends? have u read any icelandic sagas before?   

i have not! i have read a fair amount of commentary about finnish and danish and icelandic stuff tho…and i’ve read some of the norse eddas

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   also r u into sci fi? or just fantasy i know some good sci fi books

it really depends…i’m not actually into either fantasy or sci-fi generally as genres, i just like a lot of stories that are fantasy or sci-fi, if that makes sense

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   I LOVE NJAL’S SAGA    

AAAAAHHHH you know it??? COOL. can you —

   i have the magnusson / palsson translation which i like    

ahahaha i was just gonna ask you for a translation rec. thank you!!! <333 anything i should know before i dive in?

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   the traitor baru cormorant is really good!    

ah thanks for the rec! i will check this out too

ok 2 things: not exactly a charcter, but the silvan elves in mirkwood + anything you want, also uh melian + the forests in doriath (neldoreth, nivril, and region)

Ok since you said ‘Mirkwood’ I’ll keep it specific to the Mirkwood era as opposed to the earlier Greenwood era (bc then it would get too long). I know that there’s a lot of reported ‘Sindarization’ of Greenwood, also seen with its Menegroth-lite cave system and all that stuff, but I hc that this actually reversed itself a lot once Thranduil took over – Legolas identifies as a Silvan elf, and I hc that Thranduil is half-Silvan and Legolas ¾ths Silvan. IN Mirkwood….I think of Mirkwood as a study in contrasts due to the day-in day-out danger and patrol and fighting back the encroachment of the shadow and all its associated giant spiders etc. Very very VERY strict and elaborate and formalized and serious in protocol and very low-tolerance for deviations from The Way Things Should Be, very unfriendly to strangers they don’t have a formal trade relationship with (which all put together generates a culture that has a tendency to flow into general intolerance for unconventional stuff or eccentric behavior). You know, like extremely far removed from Rivendell with its heavy gearing towards ensuring its guests have everything they could need, including a varied, homey, friendly, atmosphere amenable to all different types of people, especially weird and foreign and broken ones – because if Mirkwood had the sort of rules and norms conducive to that sort of society, everyone in Mirkwood would be dead.

BUT THEN, the most outrageous of feasts, the most riotous of celebrations, the drunken-est of revelries, Thranduil spares absolutely no expense in food, wine, entertainment, music, etc, to joyfully and explosively let loose from the necessary constraints of day to day life and to refresh and rejuvenate their morale – see this excellent post here – and that this whole process is a sort of blend of Sindarin and Silvan customs, modified from hyper-vigilant Doriath patrol + wide-ranging forest-hunting stop-camp-and-feast practices of the Silvans. And a tendency to let their guard down very hard in relief when they’re safe in privacy, which leads to stuff like the passing-out drunk in the wine cellar episode that happens in the Hobbit.

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   ME TOO!!!!! yikes this is embarrassing to admit but i will spend
like hours going down those rabbit holes w/ etymology and stuff    

  • it’s SO COOL. have you listened to ppl trying to reconstruct how it might have sounded like? and the stuff abt like, that article where they found a possible origin down to to a particular region by triangulating dna stuff….?
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  •    Andie i am crying and giving you a virtual aesthetic high five ;_; someone understands!!!    

    😀

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       also “webbed toes” from 1570 that’s WILD    

       SPIDER’S “WEB” FIRST RECORDED IN THE 13TH CENTURY says somewhat unreliable online ed   

    COOL. THIS MAKES ME SO CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE CALLED SPIDERWEBS BEFORE……

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    the other time i was thinking of was sador’s carvings but there are
    of course many instances of what is technically material culture, the
    cloaks are good, the rope is good, i’m just a dick

    oh I thought you literally meant just, textiles. also what even, how do you read the silm, with noldor, and think ‘no material culture’

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       web/weave are from the same PIE root if i’m correct    

    I LOVE P I E….seriously it’s one of my favorite things in the entire universe…i spent an extravagant amount of time going down eymology branches and rabbit holes wrt to it all over……

    🔥 luthien

    I’m not much into the fandom attempts to fanwank her falling in love with Beren at first sight thing into actually being some kind of reasonable realistic gradual process that came after getting to know him properly etc like normal people in the real world or whatever. I mean, not that I don’t like that stuff to be added to the weird fairy tale love thing! that part is great. but for me undermining the weird ‘unrealistic’ aspect of luthien’s behavior just kind of, ruins the whole point? I mean, generally speaking I’m always vaguely confused about how concerned people in fandom are about making things or characters “relatable” because I just don’t…understand…why everything needs to be relatable to be interesting or affecting or good. But Beren/Luthien is one of the strangest choices of them all. I mean, psychology I get, ish, because I am blinkered by it too. But why try to drop any of our societies’ real world expectations onto these characters, of all characters. Like, does it improve the story itself in any way….i dunno, just have 2 cents.

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       `the book of wonder is another book by lord dunsany– it’s a
    collection of short stories! they’re really good– my personal fave is
    the quest of the queen’s tears. anyway, you can read it here: gutenberg.org/files/7…
    i highly recommend it, especially if ur enjoying the king of elfland’s daughter!    

    oh cool! thanks for the link, also i love short stories! now that i think about it actually lol i think gogol did mention this collection to me while selling me on elfland’s daughter, the title rang a bell but i guess my brain is just a sieve atm.

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       the answer is DEFINITELY ‘hinky gender shit’ but
    I’m gonna link a post that’s almost entirely tangential but came up on
    my dash v. close to this one and idk come on Tolkien, if ANYONE was
    gonna hook up with those uncanny valley looking mofos
    http://notbecauseofvictories.tumblr.com/post/163244791260/i-just-saw-your-tags-concerning-shape-of-water
        

    oh. that url. well i clicked the link and I do agree – the alienness IS the whole point! uh. also. omg lion, this is a very coincidentally-timed reply……..how did YOU know what i was writing just half an hour ago.

    also, 3rd reply: @yavieriel i did not manage to collect your reply, but the title of the cracky celtic book is “Earth Light: The Ancient Path of Transformation: Rediscovering the wisdom of ancient celtic and faery lore (lmao) and i’ve just been skipping around collecting bits