yavieriel replied to your post: bamboocounting replied to your post: elros &…
I’m <3 that you guys are talking about this but also slightly
annoyed that I’m too tired to get very involved, but basically I agree
with all of this – that Tolkien’s aesthetic choices as a writer get lost
in character-oriented fandom, when it’s such a fundamental part of what
makes Tolkien… /Tolkien/. The consistent development of aesthetic and
thematic concerns and stylistic devices throughout Tolkien’s body of
work is just really striking, especially given how
how little attention modern literature gives to the aesthetic
experience of prose v. “immersive”/“realistic” depiction. Which I think
is one of the reason fandom – coming from a very contemporary
perspective opposed to Tolkien’s historically-grounded perspective –
tends to lose sight of those aesthetic priorities. I feel like it ties
into what Gogol was talking about w/r/t genre literature and narrative
realism. Idk there’s something that is almost coming together
in my brain here but I’m tired and it’s refusing to cohere into
something I can actually articulate. It’ll probably make sense sometime
next week 😛
No yeah that totally makes sense! Lol this is articulated way better than my vague rambling tbh. Like, especially, I’ve noticed there’s this tendency to interpret events or justify meta based on ‘what the characters would be most likely to do in an occam’s razor way if they were real people divorced from their story’ when………’does this interpretation make a good story’ and ‘does this resonate with rather than unpleasantly undermine the beauty of other parts of this larger story’ are IMO far more important considerations when deciding on interpretations/meta….but also even when they’re not opposed in any way, the conspicuous absence of the non-character-stuff kind of….occasionally makes my brain do a catch and go ‘wait is this….still tolkien….?’ because a lot of the canon hallmarks of ‘ah! i’m home! i know this place! this is definitely tolkien!!!’ are not locked into character motivations/implications, which is the engine that most fanworks run on (which I looooooove btw, and I don’t think that people ought to be or need to be focusing on anything else in their fanworks, just….the connection or reason for writing fanwork for this story can drift away if too much non-character-stuff is sloughed off imo…)
bamboocounting replied to your post: bamboocounting replied to your post: elros &…
it’s not unimportant if it can be argued and
dueled over two millennia down the line, despite elrond facepalming on
the next continent! (and
jkbdhfkdjvg lmao um, did tumblr eat the rest of this reply….?
anyway THIS IS TRU. it’s probably surreal to see ppl talk about your personal tumblr discourse as Things of Great Historical Significance